I'm about to buy a MacBook Pro. The following components are then installed:
Radeon Pro 5500M with 8 GB
32GB RAM
1TB SSD storage
With the processor, the question now is which one should I take? In an online shop, this configuration was reduced in price with the i9 processor. The same configuration, only with the i7 processor, was not reduced.
Now the configuration with the i9 processor costs only a little more than the other option. It would then only cost 100 euro more. I would also like to pay for this, as I want to keep this MacBook for years.
The question now is what the temperatures look like in the "idle". For example only YouTube / Netflix and browser. Then I would use this device for programming and for distance learning. It is known that the i9 likes to get very hot. (I also had an "Alienware M17 r2" with this processor. It could not cope with the temperatures properly) If I then load the system with video editing and photo editing, as well as playing "Final Fantasy 14", then it is clear it's not about the processor running on gas. Only under normal operation, because the high temperatures can be annoying.
Does the i7 processor also come close to the temperatures? Is the difference only marginal? Is it better to take the i9'ner directly if it doesn't make a big difference anyway? Or is the i7'ner "cooler" and may therefore have a longer half-life than the i9'ner. Also very important because of "thermal throttling".
On the Internet, I only find unrealistic tests where the temperatures are measured under full load. I don't want to know that. I'm aware that it is getting hot there. I just don't want a hot device under my fingers when the device doesn't actually do anything like the "Alienware M17 r2".
I like to forego other product recommendations or that I don't actually need the device for my project. I like to use stronger components so that the device has enough power for a long time. So please limit the answers to the temperature-related question. Before the statement comes that a Mac is not suitable for gaming: I have a gaming PC at home. I only care about when I'm not at home and want to play something.
I thank you in advance for answers that are decisive for the purchase!
With the MacBooks, you should actually be careful with the temperature. Even a MacBook from 2013 made of aluminum has heated up to "nice" 85 degrees (outside!). The current Macbooks do not get warm during normal operation, but I noticed a few things:
Every year and update, the device gets warmer.
Cooling is of limited use.
Macbooks only heat up in a few places, especially in the bottom right and top left.
I know this is going to be bad, but what do you want to play on the part?
I'm assuming that money doesn't matter here. Then you can also buy this part:
https://www.dell.com/...51m-laptop
It will hardly get warm (according to reviews).
https://www.notebookcheck.com/...016.0.html
Read the test here. The tested Macbook has almost exactly the same specifications
"As usual, Apple uses higher internal temperatures in favor of a low volume when designing the fan. In idle mode, the two fans turn practically inaudible (perceptible with the ear on the device from about 10cm) and only turn when there are heavy load phases and 99 ° is reached C. CPU temperature. Subjectively, the noise is very pleasant even under maximum load and free of high frequencies that stand out. "
"Despite the late onset and relatively quiet fans, the measured surface temperatures remain within limits. We measure a maximum of 42 ° C under load (via calibrated touch measurement, infrared image shows higher values) and the wrist-rest remains pleasantly cool. However, we have this relatively measured at low ambient temperatures, this can of course look a little different in tropical regions.
We observed the internal temperatures of the components during the stress test under Windows 10. As usual, the processor reaches up to 99 ° C before the fans turn up and the temperatures drop. In the long term, the CPU temperature settles at an uncritical 77 ° C. The dedicated graphics card also stays in the green at 79 ° C. We also see a similar picture in macOS in the stress test with 82 ° C or 76 ° C. "
I don't think the i9 generates (or consumes more) waste heat (or uses energy) at low load than the i7.
If you only pay 100 euro more for the i9, that would be my choice in your place.
Incidentally, Intel just released the successors (10th generation) of these processors a few days ago - they don't bring that much new, but if you are not in a hurry, it doesn't hurt to wait. Apple will probably renew the 16 "MacBook Pro with these CPUs at WWDC in June.
But if you can use the device now, there's no reason not to buy it now. No major innovations are expected soon.
Thank you for your opinion. This reassures me immensely that the i9 processor does not get too hot under low load.
I'm assuming that money doesn't matter here. Then you can also buy this part:
https://www.dell.com/...51m-laptop
However, it weighs twice as much with almost 4 kg…
And battery life 2h while surfing - I wouldn't speak of a mobile device anymore…
This is a great post that I have never seen! Thank you. Here you can even see the areas with the corresponding temperatures. In idle and under maximum load.
I can't promise you that, it's just a guess!
However, a reasonable assumption, in this thread the same question was answered, and the thread creator ordered both models to compare: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-mbp-i7-or-i9.2212684/
In the end, he kept the i9 because there was no difference in power consumption or temperature under low load.
As usual, Apple relies on higher internal temperatures in favor of a lower volume for the fan design.
In addition, maybe a tip:
With the free https://crystalidea.com/de/macs-fan-control program, the fan speeds can also be adjusted manually if temperature is more important than volume.
Works on both macOS and Windows.
I scanned the post. In fact, many answered the question there, which made it difficult to read the really important information. In fact, there should also be a program that prevents turbo clocking in certain activities. I'll take a look at a review on YouTube: (Turboboost Switcher Pro) Thanks again!
Very nice, thank you! I'll take a look at it. I don't care about the volume of the fans when I'm at home. I attach more importance to ensuring that the components do not burn through in the long run. It doesn't have to be in the university library, but I don't use the device for things that work under full load.
It becomes interesting from page 4, for example, since then the thread creator has to compare both variants and consider which ones to send back.
Yep The boys and girls from Notebookcheck do very detailed and well-founded tests without any bias. So you can safely choose the i9 variant.
With pleasure!
To be honest, I would only intervene in the fan control for longer gaming or other high-performance applications.
However, it really makes sense to achieve the best possible performance and also to keep the battery wear as low as possible - it also makes sense to fully charge it beforehand and to use the device during the gaming session or similar. Leaving on the power supply also lowers the overall temperature level.
