Is What The Health a Lie and Vegan Propaganda?

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I saw the film / documentary "What The Health" on Netflix and that made me vegan back then.

It's about a man who finds out that meat is carcinogenic and that other diseases such as diabetes, heart attacks, etc. Are caused by animal products. There was a comparison that one egg was as unhealthy as five cigarettes. Doctors also spoke about it in the documentary, Dr. Greger e.g. Who is also a vegan.

The film promises that a purely plant-based diet is healthy and should even reverse diseases. That people "at the top" (or something like that) recommend animal products to us so that we get SICK and are dependent on tablets (which is of great benefit to the pharmaceutical industry). This is of course an absolute conspiracy theory, but I fell for it because the film is really very manipulative with the dramatic music in the background etc.

It's also likely that all of the people in the documentary are vegans too. Wouldn't make sense if someone who eats meat sits down in front of the camera and says that meat, milk, eggs lead to cancer, heart attacks, strokes, etc.

how do you see it? Do you know the documentary?

is that propaganda? A lie? Or is it true?

Ev

I do not know the movie. But I can very well imagine a meat eater sitting in front of the camera and saying "I love Ms. Merkel". They are actors. You can expect anything from them! Nobody has to have any qualms about that.

Isn't every film manipulative somewhere? It always depends on how differentiated you can see what. When I see a horror film, I take everything as real and given. Likewise, if someone is shot, or drowns theatrically, or someone falls in love or…

sq

I don't know the documentary, but that's really pure propaganda. All of the protagonists are vegan, which I think is very questionable, as it does not allow rational mediation.

Then the point with the pharmaceutical industry. Yes, of course the industry earns from us. But that's not why we're charged with consumption.

Then the comparison with the egg. I have no idea how you always come to the conclusion that an egg is so extremely unhealthy, and certainly not like 5 cigarettes. An egg contains important micronutrients and is a high-quality source of protein. And the cholesteria has no influence on our endogenous cholesterol, this is more likely to be influenced by bad fatty acids.

Such diseases are not always reversible either. You can also get cancer as a vegan. You get sick if you eat unhealthily, and you can do that even if you are vegan. However, they often pay more attention to nutrition and therefore rank better in statistics. Animal foods are not harmful per se. A little lean meat, an egg or the like are absolutely not harmful, it is different with a pork knuckle, for example.

All extreme propaganda

Le

Well, it's not that dramatic, but there's a real core to it. Especially here in Germany and the USA, where meat consumption is extremely high, many people get diseases as a result. Then there are all the hormones and antibiotics in the meat, so it can't be healthy. The pharmaceutical industry in the USA is really completely corrupt, it has long been clear that they are only trying to sell their consumers as much as possible. Apart from this documentary, there are quite a few studies on it. But it's the amount that makes the poison.

Jo

And the cholesteria has no effect on our body's own cholesterol

Yes, it did. The body can absorb cholesterol from food. Allegedly, the lower the level in the blood, the greater the proportion of absorption. This means that on average a vegan would probably take in significantly more cholesterol from one egg (if he ate one) than someone who eats a lot of meat, eggs and butter or who already consumes a lot of it and again produces a greater amount of self-production through saturated fatty acids Has.

And I don't know which diseases you are referring to besides cancer, but fortunately some so-called diseases of civilization are reversible, especially in the early stages - e.g. Type 2 diabetes and all kinds of coronary heart diseases can be prevented very well by a "healthy" lifestyle The former can also be reversed, ie healed and then prevented for a long time or even prevented entirely.

sq

The fact that there's awareness of cholesterol is actually new to me, you never stop learning.

And diseases can clearly be prevented. But I have primarily been referring to cancer here, as this is the number 1 argument when it comes to this topic. Once the cancer has spread, you have the salad

Jo

Yes, that is actually very interesting and with regard to a large number of nutrients, especially minerals, that absorption rates increase when the body is insufficiently supplied with the respective nutrient.

po

It should also not be forgotten that in the USA and Germany you eat a lot of highly processed foods and usually hardly have any exercise.

Le

Yep, that doesn't exactly help either. In general, in both countries the resulting obesity is quite a problem and a burden for the healthcare system

nu

Yes, all propaganda. You just have to think logically with what Gregor earns his money with. He can't help but sterilize himself into a prophet with the only truth in order to secure himself financially. No one would buy his books if he said otherwise. So he's biased because of that one opinion. So it is with all the extras in such films.

Br

Dr. Greger is a blatant outsider in the medical profession and has been massively criticized. He deserves to lose his license to practice medicine.

There are a number of vegan propaganda films that use subtle psychology to provide everything you need. Nobody controls there.

There's no evidence whatsoever that eggs cause cancer.

It is generally accepted that eggs are among the healthiest foods there's.

The cholesterol madness is only drummed through by the vegans.

Cholesterol is a vital substance, a component of every cell membrane. The body itself produces it en masse.

My

He deserves to lose his license to practice medicine.

What a harsh statement just because you are inconsistent with his statements or how can one understand that? If this person works scientifically accordingly, he has still earned a license to practice medicine. Do you know what it takes to achieve this?

veganist

There's no such term.

Cholesterol is a vital substance, a component of every cell membrane. The body itself produces it en masse.

Exactly, which is why it is unnecessary to add this to the body externally.

ra

In England, I think, or America had no idea.

It is now forbidden to call eggs healthy and safe.

Br

Huge nonsense. In Canada a quirky lobby was once able to prevail. The rest of the world laughs at it and nowhere is it forbidden.

My

Oh yes, what a monster:

Greger donates all income from speaking and selling his books to charity.

Is What The Health a Lie and Vegan Propaganda

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That doesn't work at all.

nu

Anyone can claim in a 10 year old book, with no source just empty words.